Am I Retarded????

[conman1310]

I dont watch wrestling much anymore but last week I stopped by TNA and thought I saw Christian return then tonight I stop by WWE and see Christian? am I losing my mind ?

[Happy]

Supposedly that was a deal between Vince n Dixie. Flair could attend HOF n TNA got one guest appearance. Really really stupid if it's true.

[oklafan]

No offense to Christian but TNA got the short end of the stick in the deal.

The reports I have seen state Christian is coming in for "Slammiversary" and will do sit down interviews for upcoming DVD releases.  But I have also heard rumors about Christian being inducted into TNA's HOF.

I guess we will see tonight.

[jasonramirez]

^^^How? Flair is still a name, but it's not like he's putting asses in seats for TNA or that his appearance at the WWE  HoF sold the show. 

Flair's a legend, but after awhile, name value can only go so far. Hypothetically speaking, TNA should be crushing WWE with all the "names" they have from Hogan to Sting to Angle to Hardy. The days of name value draw are pretty much over. You can drag Flair to any Indy and their ticket sales will increase, put him on a national promotion like TNA and he is ineffectual, the entire roster in ineffectual. Ten years of idle activity is proof positive.

Honestly, TNA got the better deal. Why? TNA lives in WWE wake, the WWE sent a guy over there who is an upper mid carder exposed to 3-5 million viewers a week and got to piggy back off of the WWE name and exposure for use in an idea they ripped from the WWE. WWE got a guy who hasn't made a bit of difference for their nearest competition simply for nostalgia purposes for a nostalgic event. From a business purpose, TNA won.

Flair's career is far more successful than Christian's will ever be, but right now Christian is more relevant.

[RBG]

Ric Flairs still a name. Always will be

[DavFuller]

I dont think Christian will EVER be more relevant then Ric Flair. Flair appearing at the HOF made it a big deal, Christian coming out & saying "Hey check out this video". Did nothing. Not a knock on TNA or Christian. Not anyone's fault. I just disagree with that analysis that Christian is more relevant then Ric Flair. When it comes to BUSINESS. WWE Sold Tickets & DVD of the HOF thanks to help of the Four Horseman's induction. Christian sold zero tickets & popped zero buyrates, he was announced on twitter 2 days before the ppv. So I respectfully disagree with that analysis.

RBG is right on the money Flair is Flair, dead or alive. That will never change. Flair may not have brought any more awareness to TNA, but Christian isnt exactly gaining record ratings during his segments on WWE TV.

JUst my 2 cents. Whatever it's worth.

[Happy]

RGB can say alot with very  little words. TNA did nothing but come across desperate. Flair... is Flair.

[Nite]

I think it did it's job just fine.. You guys are still talking about it a week later.

[RBG]

I hate when guys say Flair means nothing, or doesnt draw.
1) Flair has his place in history.
2) Does he draw....after 40yrs, im sure theres a drop. But can someone tell what indy guy has sold out the Charlotte Coliseum. Or any arena for that matter.
Tell what indy guy has been around for 40yrs, 30yrs, 20? 10? and has had any success.
Diffrent times, I understand that, but in any case... Christian appears on bigger stages than Flair did, PPVs Arena TV, and he still hasnt reached Flair status, and more than likely never will

[jasonramirez]

I never stated he wasn't a draw ever, I stated he isn't a draw now. He is a name, but his name value isn't worth much these days.  I was merely stating that WWE sent over a guy who is seen by nearly 5x the people on a weekly basis as opposed to TNA's audience. I saw Flair recently at a Modesto Nuts game (local farm team for the Rockies) and I paid 6 bucks because Flair was there, the turnout was basically the usual for a Nuts game.

His draw hasn't just dipped, but outside indy shows, Flair's name value only goes so far. By the logic of name value being a draw today means TNA should be killing WWE. Hogan, Flair, Sting, Angle, RVD, Hardy, Anderson and the mass other guys that had name value and went there have done absolutely nothing to help increase TNA's numbers. TNA has been stuck in neutral for 10 years with and without names.

Again, no disrespecting Flair, but you don't have to have been inside the industry to know that name value and nostalgia only goes so far. Wrestling, like everything else in life, it seems, is a "what have you done for us today, not yesterday" and Flair is on the wrong side of the fence. No disrespect, Flair is my second favorite wrestler ever behind HBK, but he's like an old car; pretty fuckin nice when it was new and modern but after time it devalues and doesn't work as well as it did years ago.

Never said Christian is bigger than Flair, but numbers don't lie and the HoF would have been successful with or without Flair, as it has been for all the years Flair wasn't an inductee and I honestly think Anderson should have gone in on his own. Flair showing up at WWE isn't as big or more controversial as the current IC champ showing up on the "competitors"  HoF.

I know Flair's place in history, respect what he has done, love all his matches and any five years of the first 25 years of his career are more important than Christians entire career. But it is what it is, Flair's name value isn't what it was, nor is Hogan's, Sting's, Angle's and so on down the TNA roster.